i truely feel the people that write the wt books and mags , are well aware they are printing lies. . if i can look up bible verses and refrences they quote. and see they are lying . and i didn't write the articles , there is no way they don't know they are lying. i think they get off pulling the woll over the eyes of the flock.. john
johnny cip
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How do the people who run the WTBTS Society view the Org.?
by formerout inquite often when reading some of the topics and posts i see comments about how all the big-wigs at the wtbts care only about the printing company, etc.
i have been accused of being a little too naive or trusting in the past, but i tend to think that even a lot of the higher-ups in the kh's and even at bethel believe that it is in fact the one true religion.
i tend to believe that a very small percentage of them figure that it's just a way to make money, etc.. what do you think?
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Well ,I Just Had An Elder Come By To See If I Wanted To Go For A Beer
by minimus ina little before 5p.m., i got a call asking me how long i'd be working to.
it was my ex best friend, i'll call roger.
i recognized his voice.
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johnny cip
mini: sounds like you had fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! john
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Is the Organizaton slowing down or are we just imagining it?
by JH inevery time i speak to an active jw in my congregation, they don't give me the impression that they are slowing down.
if i say that i see less jw's on the street knocking on doors, they will say that many are working full time.
they will also probably say that the hall is always full of people.. i don't go to the hall anymore, so i can't say if the hall is full or not, but i notice that there are way less jw's going door to door than before in this area.
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johnny cip
just called my jw dad . and asked about the k hall that became a baptist church. he tried to say that the family that owned the hall. wanted the property back. after at least 35 years? and the wt gave it back to the family.. this is a residentual street and this hall don't look like a house. i asked him if he was 100% sure of this. he said NO. i can't believe his answer. has anyone heard of something like this before. john p.s i just called my dad back .and questioned him some more. now he admits he really know nothing about , who owned the hall, who sold it, were the $$$$$$$$$ went etc. then his voice kept getting ,lower and lower, till he hung up.
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Is the Organizaton slowing down or are we just imagining it?
by JH inevery time i speak to an active jw in my congregation, they don't give me the impression that they are slowing down.
if i say that i see less jw's on the street knocking on doors, they will say that many are working full time.
they will also probably say that the hall is always full of people.. i don't go to the hall anymore, so i can't say if the hall is full or not, but i notice that there are way less jw's going door to door than before in this area.
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johnny cip
in my area in new york city> i went past this k hall that i knew to be there for at least 35 years. and guees what. the new sign said BAPTIST CHURCH. Now i know they haven't built a new hall anywhere with in 5 miles in about 10 years. add this to another hall about 2 miles away that was closed about 3 years ago. i was so happy seeing that new baptist yesterday. so even here in the big city they are slowing down , or just selling off the property for the $$$$$$$ john
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wt orange farm sold .
by johnny cip init seems the wt is selling off lot of property.
the wt just sold the orange grove farm they have in fort myers fla. i guess jehovah got sick of growing oranges.
john i was told no jw's wanted to pick the oranges no more.
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johnny cip
it seems the wt is selling off lot of property. the wt just sold the orange grove farm they have in fort myers fla. i guess jehovah got sick of growing oranges. john i was told no jw's wanted to pick the oranges no more. sounds like the borg just wants the $$$$$$$$$$
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Blood Transfusions - more sound bible reasoning rejected by the WTBTS
by Balsam inhi everyone, below is some research on the understanding of blood that is interesting once again showing that the wtbts is not interested in what the bible really says, but is interested only in what they the gb determine for the rank and file.
balsam.
this blood will always be asked back.. of course, if no life is taken, there can be no debt for a life.
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johnny cip
balsam: from what i get out of it . someone or you did some haevy research, and we all know the wt hates when jw's do research. sad because the verses i looked up from this letter . seem to fit in very well. john
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Funeral for JW Shot to Death
by Kenneson inthe following story is about aaron davis who was recently shot to death.
it is entitled "congregation focuses on life of shooting victim.
aaron dvis, who died nov. 13, is remembered for his stylish attire, strong faith and cooking abilities.
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johnny cip
happy dad : trust me i know more about the wt than 75% here. and the ones that know more than me , ARE true wt scholars. if you would like to talk to me , just pm me your phone number. i'll call you and we'll discuss wt teachings. we can talk about any time in wt history ..and we'll see who's ass get kicked . after 30 minutes on the phone , i'll have you bouncing off the walls with stuff you never heard, you may learn something. i can open next to any wt publication and find dozens of lies, contradictions, deceit, etc in the course of 3 paragraphs. i look foward to talking with you . or i'll look foward to making you look like a fool on the board , when you stick your foot in your mouth. john,,
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Does The WT Society Help People In Order To Keep Them Helpless?
by xochsi in"i was going down the wrong path, i was using drugs, drinking, and thinking about suicide when the jw's came to my door.
they helped me to stop using drugs and alcohol and saved my life.
"i use to beat my wife and drink heavily.
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johnny cip
good post: the jw allways use this idea that the truth made them a good person. i like to bring out the fact to jw's that most any church teaches the same things. so again the wt is a liar. john
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Funeral for JW Shot to Death
by Kenneson inthe following story is about aaron davis who was recently shot to death.
it is entitled "congregation focuses on life of shooting victim.
aaron dvis, who died nov. 13, is remembered for his stylish attire, strong faith and cooking abilities.
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johnny cip
well i know the post office is a gov't agency, just like the army is. it was ok for the wt to tell the jw that worked for coca cola . he needed to get another route b/c he delivered soda to an army base. remember that one!!!!!!!!!! assholes. so when did the the UNITED STATES POST OFFICE , stop delivering letters to army bases. one delivers soda. but was going to get df'ed . but the one 's that deliver the mail are different. double standard. does the jw that workes at the local post office , say to someone sending a package to her son in the navy. "i can't process your mail" because i'm no part of this world. hypocrites. does the city bus driver. a gov't job. like my dad. that has to drive past the army base. tell the soldiers he can't take them to the base because he's no part of this world. my dad is a hypocrite. do the poineers that are on welfare, or ssi. say i'm well enough to walk the streets every day pushing wt DOPE. so don't send me my gov't welfare check b/c i'm really working for jehoovers gov't . no they are HYPOCRITES. why did the wt take gov't $$$$$ from new york state when they built thier power plant in patterson b/c the wt is a hypoCRITE. and so are the jw's . any way you slice it ,anyone that takes a city, county, state, gov't job is working to inhance this system of things hence HYPOCRITES. i don;t care what the wt allows and don't. when you say you are no part of this system and you work for it your a HYPOCRITE . and alot of x jw's here blind in many respects. czar your right i was never a jw. i saw right tho there bulllshit when i was 9 years old. but i still have to put up with hypocrite jw family members 35 years later. some who have been living off the u.s. gov't for the last 20 years . while cursing it. hypocrites. flea man i've been hereing that line about now they have the hope of the ressurection for 35 years. better they died before the big A . IN fact the non believer should be happy b/c the big A is right around the corner. sorry fleaman i guess the jw's i've known for years , are just assholes. john
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Funeral for JW Shot to Death
by Kenneson inthe following story is about aaron davis who was recently shot to death.
it is entitled "congregation focuses on life of shooting victim.
aaron dvis, who died nov. 13, is remembered for his stylish attire, strong faith and cooking abilities.
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johnny cip
sorry fleaman ; that's what the jw's say about non jw's when they die. so who are really the dick heads . i learned it from the jw's .